Dr Julian Lewis: What discussions has the Secretary of State had with the National Assembly for Wales Government on proposals for changes to emergency services provision across Wales?

[The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Mr Don Touhig): My right hon. Friend and I have regular discussions with Assembly colleagues on matters affecting Wales.]

Dr Lewis: I thank the Minister for that rather uninformative reply. With the out-of-hours service described as a postcode lottery, and with the Chief Executive of the Cardiff and Vale Trust saying that the problem is a crippling lack of capacity, does the Minister feel even the slightest twinge of guilt about that claim made eight long years ago that the country had only 24 hours to save the NHS?